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Post by Brad Dahlia on Aug 29, 2010 4:39:13 GMT
does the fact that my initials are the same as yours exempt me? or the fact that i'm a teacher? Nether ;D Officer S strolls out of a back office, an old copy of War of the Worlds in his hand, silver bars gleaming on his uniformLet me get this straight... You "Knights" go out and kill those you feel to be ignorant? What gives you this right? What's stopping us from going out and shooting people on sight because they looted those weapons, or found those clothes? I'll answer that for you. We believe in right versus wrong, and we have the good sense to tell which is which. You my friend do not. We do not kill who we "feel" to be ignorant we kill as a means to educate people and groups we judge to be ignorant. For example DHPD. How long has your suburb been in ruins? With 50+ members boasted on your wiki only an incompetent and ignorant police force would leave there suburb in ruins for so long. Or perhaps you you do not care for your fellow survivors? So I must ask are you truly a pro survivor group or just a bunch of gun toting thugs? I have been apart of operations personally and I have even worked hand in hand with the DEM and my fellow Knights to bring our suburb back in to shape. It did not take 50+ people. Perhaps you should talk to the people at DSS Red Zone Support they are a very small but very capable group. They may give you pointers on how to manage your burb. I did like the move Hot Fuzz and Run fat boy run, but Shaun of the Dead is still my favorite. I had read your wiki page, thanks, which is why I asked. I just, it has to be said, do not follow the logical thread from such-and-such a person is deemed ignorant (by an arbitrary and undocumented process) and this can be corrected by killing them. Indeed punishment, generally, is primarily effective as, well, punishment rather than a deterrent unless it follows with such immediacy from the offense that it can become psychologically linked in the mind of the offender. Moreover `being ignorant' is such a nebulous offense that it difficult to see how one could identify a single clear event in order to deal out the swift retributive action. It certainly doesn't seem to be the case from the documented kills of yours that we have on record. Indeed it isn't clear to me that members of your organisation even make it particularly obvious that a perceived lack of interest in education is the reason for their actions when they dispense their punishment. We execute documented PKers in our area because it is our experience that this slows their activities. It also tends to focus their attention on members of the DHPD, leaving civilians free to go about their business. We are under no illusions that we will somehow `cure' them of their wish to kill people by these actions. In short I think your reasoning is flawed. I would also reject the premise that the zombie state is particularly conducive to reflection and revelation. Zombies, if anything, think less clearly than the living in my experience. You are welcome to your opinion that our reasoning is flawed but it is our actions that have attracted some of our members and keeps attracting new ones. So then it must be understood that it is working. You can also reason that if it is the way we deal with the ignorant of Malton that has such a strong effect on people to draw them in to our order to lead a life of enlightenment. It must also be influencing how and what other people are doing. Not to mention the people who witness the educations. They also take part in the learning experience as well. So I will say that our logic is not failed. I think it is cool that BD makes a happy face. Also ( can you tell I'm stuck at an airport?) your mission statement says you intend to annihilate the ignorant and uneducated survivors. In the context of your accurate statement of the nature of death in Malton this mission statement would appear... quixotic. And, I question your definitions of ignorant and uneducated. While I accept that ignorance is harmful it is possible to be knowledgable without being able to quote Proust from memory. For instance our PK squad have amassed a great deal of knowledge about the behaviour and habits of PKers which enable them to effectively hunt these people and thus free up the efforts of civilians in order, for instance, that they can expend their time repairing libraries (say) rather than swaying at revive points. I would consider this a demonstrably beneficial activity rooted in knowledge even if it is not based in formal education and I would challenge the assertion that these people cause harm to humanity by their continued survival. If people change their ways inst that the annihilation of ignorance. I would have to say yes. And for the 2nd part your question that is why we leave it up to the knight to judge. Having a diploma or not dose not one ignorant or unlighted. ....unless you are a zerg then all bets are off. This statement makes me think you have a dislike for the scum that is zergers. If that is the case then why are you bothering us? We have many zergers that try to operate in the DMZ that you could hunt. I'd like to think that we could come to an agreement where we both feel that focusing efforts on removing cheaters from the game would be a more worthwhile endeavour than battle amongst ourselves. It would be a win-win for all involved. If you are interested, we have compiled a list of the local zergers we have came across. Just saying, care for another donut? I will have one more cup of coffee this thread picked up some legs. We do detest zergs and some of us hunt them exclusively. While others of us do it to a lesser degree or not at all there is more to Malton than zergs at least for me. Although I have educated Rough Craig twice in your DHPD zone. Rest assured some of the best zerg hunters in Malton are Members of the PK. "quixotic" !!!! you know you're dealing with a fellow member of academia when that word gets bandied about That made me smile when I read it.
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Post by arthurbirling on Aug 29, 2010 9:40:16 GMT
So are you here for any reason?
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Post by ~BD~ on Aug 30, 2010 4:00:35 GMT
So are you here for any reason? more reason than you, i suppose as for our suburb being in ruins, i suppose when you run into a dedicated zombie force the The Dead, it makes it all but impossible to hold a burb given the recent game mechanics. You can't find a fault with that logic unless you are indeed a bit ignorant Still, we go in and let them know we haven't quit as they wanted us to, regroup and rearm, and do it all over again.
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Post by Purple Cat on Aug 30, 2010 8:59:03 GMT
You are welcome to your opinion that our reasoning is flawed but it is our actions that have attracted some of our members and keeps attracting new ones. So then it must be understood that it is working. You can also reason that if it is the way we deal with the ignorant of Malton that has such a strong effect on people to draw them in to our order to lead a life of enlightenment. It must also be influencing how and what other people are doing. Not to mention the people who witness the educations. They also take part in the learning experience as well. So I will say that our logic is not failed. Hmm... to what extent do you believe that the new members of your order are attracted by a suddenly acquired interest in learning and to what extent do you think they are attracted by the combined lures of elitism and a rationalisation for their blood-thirsty behaviour? Beyond swelling the numbers of the Philosophe Knights what concrete benefits does your brand of intellectual elitism actually bring to Malton?
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Post by Gabby on Aug 30, 2010 12:02:52 GMT
I'm calling it.
Counter-revolution on these elitists.
Morons, to the barricades - there are two there, and two here, so I need one man on each barricade - that's five. Burn paintings and books to keep warm, use sculptures as clubs, and throw dictionaries at the bastards. All those using words longer than three syllables are unwelcome - except me. As befits a revolutionary leader, I don't follow my own rules. Soldiers in tents, I'll take the palace, if I can work out how to turn the key.
In all seriousness, you actually think the petty-bourgeois pretentions we can find in Malton's Museum of Modern Art are any sort of use to anyone? The one good thing this plague brought us was the ability to dispense with the non-essentials and get back to living. You keep your intelligence and enlightenment, I'll just keep on cultivating my garden.
Voltaire, bitches.
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Post by Brad Dahlia on Aug 31, 2010 7:52:08 GMT
So are you here for any reason? This is a public thread open to public comment. I am commenting on that thread. I am not spamming said thread. Would it be possible for me to spam a thread about my self? Because anything I said or did would still be relevant because it still pertains to me and the thread. So What do you have to bring to the table good Sir. The table is set you only need to serve your dish. So are you here for any reason? more reason than you, i suppose as for our suburb being in ruins, i suppose when you run into a dedicated zombie force the The Dead, it makes it all but impossible to hold a burb given the recent game mechanics. You can't find a fault with that logic unless you are indeed a bit ignorant Still, we go in and let them know we haven't quit as they wanted us to, regroup and rearm, and do it all over again. That is the madness of Malton and mechanics are "laws" of the almighty Kevin. Praise Knowledge! You are welcome to your opinion that our reasoning is flawed but it is our actions that have attracted some of our members and keeps attracting new ones. So then it must be understood that it is working. You can also reason that if it is the way we deal with the ignorant of Malton that has such a strong effect on people to draw them in to our order to lead a life of enlightenment. It must also be influencing how and what other people are doing. Not to mention the people who witness the educations. They also take part in the learning experience as well. So I will say that our logic is not failed. Hmm... to what extent do you believe that the new members of your order are attracted by a suddenly acquired interest in learning and to what extent do you think they are attracted by the combined lures of elitism and a rationalisation for their blood-thirsty behaviour? Beyond swelling the numbers of the Philosophe Knights what concrete benefits does your brand of intellectual elitism actually bring to Malton? I will not lie it takes a certain personality type, but we have our standards we only allow applicants to join that meet our strict criteria. It is a draw to some but once you have joined and real life sets in as the Buddhist say you are doing the laundry 2 letters and a white mask are not so enticing to them. This is rare occurrence because of our strict criteria. Surly this makes some sense to you. Not every one in Malton wants to be a member of DHPD but some would be drawn to it because of the size of the group and what it has to offer. That how ever dose not make them a good fit even if they believe when they join on that this is there calling. What do we bring to Malton? I will tell you a story that is truth. There was a little Monk a Franciscan to be exact. He lived in West Boundwood. He lived a very simple life, making revives from the cemetery adjacent to St. Francis church. He being a Franciscan believed in nonviolence even to his enemies. When his church was over run by zombies he would give them first aid kits and tell them they were welcome to say as long as they liked. He kept the church at VSB so the people he revived could find safety and medical attention if need be. The building was tagged to be kept at vsb. It was also in the Wiki. Yet time and time again survivors would over cade the building even after the little monk pleaded and explained to them not to. Often times the ignorant people would say but there are x number of zombies out side. The monk would reply go next door to the other church or the Junkyard they are EHB you will be safe. Please leave my church for the weak and poor. His preaching often fell on deaf ears of the most ignorant survivors. Then one night a member of the PK slept in the church after being revived. You see the monk revived all who wanted it believing love was the conquer not knowledge. That lovely Knight saw what was going on and educated 1 survivor and before he killed the man he gave him a lecture on why he was being educated. The three remaining survivors brought down the cades and left the monk to his work. You see there ignorance was show to them and they learned to pay attention to signage of the locals something the DEM still needs to learn. I'm calling it. Counter-revolution on these elitists. Morons, to the barricades - there are two there, and two here, so I need one man on each barricade - that's five. Burn paintings and books to keep warm, use sculptures as clubs, and throw dictionaries at the bastards. All those using words longer than three syllables are unwelcome - except me. As befits a revolutionary leader, I don't follow my own rules. Soldiers in tents, I'll take the palace, if I can work out how to turn the key. In all seriousness, you actually think the petty-bourgeois pretentions we can find in Malton's Museum of Modern Art are any sort of use to anyone? The one good thing this plague brought us was the ability to dispense with the non-essentials and get back to living. You keep your intelligence and enlightenment, I'll just keep on cultivating my garden.
Voltaire, bitches.Keeping garden is a wonderful thing. So is the utter the lack of money, laws, and the interdependency between groups has been good for people. When you have an infestation of cut worms or aphids, when your prized heirloom Mortgage Lifter tomatoes have verticillium wilt or blossom end rot please stop by and talk to my friends in Roftwood the Quartly Study Group. I am sure they will have a book you can check out. They also have several good cook books. They have done wonders for my garden. Praise Knowledge!
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Post by Surfcop on Aug 31, 2010 14:59:00 GMT
This guy really likes the sound of his own voice.
Let me ask you Brad, is English your first language? I only wonder because you have a number of spelling errors in this novel of text you're writing, particularly with the words there, their, and they're. I just thought I'd help you out with that; I'm sure we have a dictionary around here somewhere. Praise knowledge and all that... or am I supposed to kill you now? I'm a little confused.
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Post by Brad Dahlia on Aug 31, 2010 15:27:22 GMT
This guy really likes the sound of his own voice. Let me ask you Brad, is English your first language? I only wonder because you have a number of spelling errors in this novel of text you're writing, particularly with the words there, their, and they're. I just thought I'd help you out with that; I'm sure we have a dictionary around here somewhere. Praise knowledge and all that... or am I supposed to kill you now? I'm a little confused. first off I apologize I usually edit every thing before I post but answering all you question has taken up quite a bit of my personal time. English is my native tong but I have a learning disability known as dysgraphia. The Knights in wisdom and kindness we able see past my weaknesses to see the assets I have I would bring to the order. Being learned men they were familiar with the work of Albert Einstein, Galileo, Thomas Edison, and Leonardo da Vinci . Just to name a few people who have had learning disabilities. They could see the thoughts behind the tangled mess of words. That is because they are nor ignorant. What do you see my friend? This is also why I usually am not one to make many "public" appearances. I thought I could hop on here and hijack my thread a bit I wasn't expecting this to turn in to a deposition, but I have enjoyed it I hope you have. ;D
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Post by Surfcop on Aug 31, 2010 15:47:01 GMT
Just messing with you Brad, but I still plan on throwing a dictionary at you when I open fire. haha
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Post by Officer S on Aug 31, 2010 16:12:03 GMT
You toss the word "Judge" around... Hmmm, Isn't a judgement just a feeling? A jury of your peers says you are guilty. The "Judge" will then give the punishment as he sees fit. That's a "feel" type of situation.
Armed thugs? Very interesting indeed.
Officer S sits down in an old chair and begins reading not looking up
That's why the DHPD has gone out to numerous calls of help that survivors call out. And why our group has been present in most of the great sieges of Caiger mall. We feel our true foes are the dead. Not the living. We still uphold law. If you murder someone without just cause by damn your going down yourself. That's why we have a public desk. For people who have been wronged. We can right that wrong. And we intend too.
What gives you and your group the right to be judge, jury AND executioner?! You're basing your reasons on the fact that you claim to be the non-ignorant ones! Who gave you this right!?
We! Officer S looks up and motions to the small unit of officers in the lobby
WE, hold up the laws! If you murder another living person without a reason, you yourself will be shot! If you destroy public property you will be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law! We KNOW right versus wrong.... you don't. And it seems you never will!
*Ahh, roleplaying much fun indeed*
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Post by Revenant on Sept 1, 2010 2:33:42 GMT
I'll answer that for you. We believe in right versus wrong, and we have the good sense to tell which is which. You my friend do not. You are sadly deluded remnants of an outdated order. See, I can make assertions too!
I notice my warrant has been marked as expired. Does that mean that if I revisit your area and refrain from killing members of your organisation, you will refrain from killing me?
Hmm... to what extent do you believe that the new members of your order are attracted by a suddenly acquired interest in learning and to what extent do you think they are attracted by the combined lures of elitism and a rationalisation for their blood-thirsty behaviour? Beyond swelling the numbers of the Philosophe Knights what concrete benefits does your brand of intellectual elitism actually bring to Malton? You would be surprised. Also: elitism? Is it elitist to attempt to spread education and enlightenment to the masses by whatever means necessary?
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Post by sanpedro on Sept 1, 2010 5:33:42 GMT
Brad - I'm wanting to get in touch with the PK on an unrelated issue, but have not had my account activated yet. Could you please ask one of your forum admins to have a look? I've registered with the same username as here
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Post by Revenant on Sept 1, 2010 5:59:29 GMT
Your account has been activated. Might I inquire as to the issue, or would that discussion be better held over there? P.S. Your forum suggests both Brad Dahlia and myself to be Trainees. While humourous, this is hardly accurate. Might I suggest changing both of these designations to something more appropriate?
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Post by Purple Cat on Sept 1, 2010 7:08:26 GMT
@brad
The story you relate is the kind of `teaching moment' I was thinking of when I said that such immediate offense/retribution opportunities couldn't present themselves often in Malton. I still do not see how they can present often, nor does my observation of Philosophe Knight operations (which is limited I will admit) suggest that enlightening homilies are normally delivered prior to the kill. Your published criteria for judging "education" seem crude at best: I choose my sleeping place based on tactical considerations not whether it was once a library or a school and I do not, off hand, see how the presence of a quote from Shakespeare, Voltaire, Confucius or the arbitrary intellectual authority figure of your choice demonstrates my ability to do anything apart from use the Google search box.
@duke D'Oeuvre
It seems to me to be essentially elitist to both limit entrance to those who are considered `appropriately educated/intellectual' and at the same time to then pursue an agenda of killing those who you deem to `insufficiently educated/intellectual' and, quite apart from anything else, it leads to concerns that the Philsophe Knights, as an organisation, probably suffer from internal systemic bias. They are a self-perpetuating club of people who agree with each other's point of view (I have no doubt they have vicious internal debates on the nature of free will but they obviously have a uniformity of agreement on what constitutes education and what is an appropriate fate for those who are not educated) and not only exclude those who disagree with their point of view but, in fact, actively hunt down and persecute those people.
The use of `education' or being intellectual as a criteria is also inherently elitist since an appearance of education or the kind of intellectual nature they seem to promote is heavily dependent on environmental factors and, essentially, only easily available to the comfortable and well off. In short they are a group of people who believe themselves to be intellectually superior to the rest of us and much of their set up seems to designed to reinforce that impression of superiority both to themselves and to those who are considered unworthy.
And... er... yes.. the trainee label. We discussed it last time you asked and the discussion was inconclusive - there was some suggestion that "diplomats" should be allowed access to, for instance, the OOC areas of this forum as well as the front desk (that way you could also enjoy telling us what you are thinking right now, what grinds your gears, debate communism and gun control and try to guess the subjects of obscure anime pictures). There was some opposition to the widened access, and some opposition to the principle of granting any special status at all. Since, at the time, we had no reason to suppose you would ever revisit the forum and no other enemy had ever asked for such the discussion was left to be raised again should the situation arise. As I'm not in charge any more this is out of my hands. Spacetyrant, Officer S and Jackboot Johnny are the current Chief, Assistant Chief and Captain of the DHPD and are probably the right people to nudge about a separate mask.
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Post by Revenant on Sept 1, 2010 11:44:51 GMT
You presume monoculture where, I assure you, one does not exist. I suppose that is consequent of our adoption of the robes and mask and the general mystique we seek to cultivate, but rest assured that we have a wide variety of memberships with sometimes violently differing views and opinions. To presume otherwise about any true philosophers' club betrays a vast ignorance on the part of the observer; this is, however, merely a natural part of human nature, to stereotype and hence easily judge an entire group based on flimsy understanding. More nuanced perceptions will come with more exposure, assuming a willingness to look past initial views and inbuilt biases and prejudices. My signature on the Knights forum contains a quote from Aristophanes: “Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”A current Student followed that up with this quote from Primo: “To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn’t.”I hope that from this you can glean something of our philosophy. More can be learned from our publications if one is inclined to learning as opposed to making judgements based on rumour and hearsay. And people wonder why we use the methods we do. ⁂ "Enemy"? That seems a remarkably short-sighted view to take. Are you saying that were the Knights to come hunting some faction guilty of mass crimes – say, zergers, or that Combat18 group – that you would then treat us the same way as any random murderer who crossed your path? Does not your warrant system have provisions for review, so as to prevent its misuse? And have you never heard the aphorism, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."?
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Post by arthurbirling on Sept 1, 2010 11:59:35 GMT
you expired warrant: As long as you do not pk the dhpd members, or the 'innocent public'
as for the enemy of my enemy: Are you suggesting we leave you be as long as you just kill zergers? I think we have a list of zergers somewhere... But that would be for the group leaders to decide, and seems rather hazy in our warrant system rules.
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Post by Gabby on Sept 1, 2010 13:06:16 GMT
*sniggers* This is all terribly bourgeois, guys. As the fine lady in purple pointed out, you exclude the ignorant from enlightenment on the basis of their ignorance, and then shoot them for being ignorant. And, let's be honest, given your intellectual masturbation over Greek thinkers, it's quite clear what kind of enlightenment you prefer. While you're busy shooting the poor for not having time to become educated, we protect them so that they may gain access to the education they never had. Indeed, as Chief Librarian, I've watched several new recruits blossom. Meanwhile, you sit in your dark rooms with your robes and masks and ply each other with congratulations. Haven't you heard? "The hilosophe[rs] [Knights] have only interpreted the world - the point is to change it."
Enjoy your libraries. No-one ever changed the world by reading.
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Post by arthurbirling on Sept 1, 2010 14:22:32 GMT
oh gabby, when will communism be enough for you?
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Post by Gabby on Sept 1, 2010 15:02:01 GMT
oh gabby, when will communism be enough for you? It already is? Well, I would probably still whinge, but...
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Post by Bill Turner on Sept 1, 2010 16:27:03 GMT
Your account has been activated. Might I inquire as to the issue, or would that discussion be better held over there? P.S. Your forum suggests both Brad Dahlia and myself to be Trainees. While humourous, this is hardly accurate. Might I suggest changing both of these designations to something more appropriate? Admin Decision: Since there is a desire amongst the Officers not to allow greater access to those who are perceived 'enemies' of the DHPD and creating a special mask for the handful of people who don't like being referred to as trainee would be an administrative hassle, your request for a 'Diplomat' mask has been denied. I've put your group affiliation under your name, if that makes you feel any better.
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Post by Brad Dahlia on Sept 2, 2010 1:09:04 GMT
Just messing with you Brad, but I still plan on throwing a dictionary at you when I open fire. haha I look forward to it mine is warn and dog eard so a new one would be appreciated. You toss the word "Judge" around... Hmmm, Isn't a judgement just a feeling? A jury of your peers says you are guilty. The "Judge" will then give the punishment as he sees fit. That's a "feel" type of situation. Armed thugs? Very interesting indeed. Officer S sits down in an old chair and begins reading not looking upThat's why the DHPD has gone out to numerous calls of help that survivors call out. And why our group has been present in most of the great sieges of Caiger mall. We feel our true foes are the dead. Not the living. We still uphold law. If you murder someone without just cause by damn your going down yourself. That's why we have a public desk. For people who have been wronged. We can right that wrong. And we intend too. What gives you and your group the right to be judge, jury AND executioner?! You're basing your reasons on the fact that you claim to be the non-ignorant ones! Who gave you this right!? We! Officer S looks up and motions to the small unit of officers in the lobbyWE, hold up the laws! If you murder another living person without a reason, you yourself will be shot! If you destroy public property you will be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law! We KNOW right versus wrong.... you don't. And it seems you never will! *Ahh, roleplaying much fun indeed* I will ask you this what gives you the right to enforce your way of life on people? Your laws need to be changed murder is no longer murder it is not permanent. If you destroy a generator it is gone forever that can't be said for you and me. It seems to me that the DHPD wants to squeeze the PK in to a tiny little box and tell us what we are. When you don't know what we truly are we are the vinedressers of Malton and the inhabitants of Malton are the vine. You see A vinedresser, or husbandman, is more than a mere farmer. Grapes are more than an annual crop. The vinedresser's grape vines remain with him for decades. He comes to know each one in a personal way, much like a shepherd with his sheep. He knows how the vine is faring from year to year and which ones are more productive or vigorous than others. He knows what they respond to and what special care certain one's need. Every vine has its own personality. And the vinedresser comes to know it over the years. The vinedresser cares for each vine and nurtures it, pruning it the appropriate amount at the appropriate times, fertilizing it, lifting its branches from the ground and propping them or tying them to the trellis, and taking measures to protect them from insects and disease. Murder as you like to call it i or we we know to be education is merely our pruning the branches. This will bring forth more fruit and keeps the plant healthy. This is for the betterment of Malton. This is for the good of the all. @brad The story you relate is the kind of `teaching moment' I was thinking of when I said that such immediate offense/retribution opportunities couldn't present themselves often in Malton. I still do not see how they can present often, nor does my observation of Philosophe Knight operations (which is limited I will admit) suggest that enlightening homilies are normally delivered prior to the kill. Your published criteria for judging "education" seem crude at best: I choose my sleeping place based on tactical considerations not whether it was once a library or a school and I do not, off hand, see how the presence of a quote from Shakespeare, Voltaire, Confucius or the arbitrary intellectual authority figure of your choice demonstrates my ability to do anything apart from use the Google search box. If we are in the area educating the locals dose it not make tactical sense to stay where it is a no kill zone? If you think all we do is quote shake spear or the like I take offense at that. I have to the best of my recollection made personal kill speeches to each member I have educated and that is 16 I did double up on Elbow and Will Helm. So 14 different officers in all and I don't believe I cut and pasty any of my speeches. I base a lot of my speech of group, profile, and some time location. Like your chief I told him it was not wise to sleep in a resource building because it makes you an easy target. If it is not under siege it makes much more tactical seance to sleep else where. Some time it is appropriate to quote literature or great thinkers quotes. I like to quote Poe during the Samhain Slaughter, and no that is not educational it is art. *sniggers* This is all terribly bourgeois, guys. As the fine lady in purple pointed out, you exclude the ignorant from enlightenment on the basis of their ignorance, and then shoot them for being ignorant. And, let's be honest, given your intellectual masturbation over Greek thinkers, it's quite clear what kind of enlightenment you prefer. While you're busy shooting the poor for not having time to become educated, we protect them so that they may gain access to the education they never had. Indeed, as Chief Librarian, I've watched several new recruits blossom. Meanwhile, you sit in your dark rooms with your robes and masks and ply each other with congratulations. Haven't you heard? "The hilosophe[rs] [Knights] have only interpreted the world - the point is to change it."
Enjoy your libraries. No-one ever changed the world by reading. Haha Gabby you hard line leftists always have such a fire in your belly to bad it is wasted here. You know Anarchy and Communism go hand in hand. Why not help bring down the machine that is the DHPD. The Poor people surely you jest, are we not all scavenging for supplies? I have yet to find any one who has a single cent in hand. In fact I see the problem is in large survivor groups that control the realistate. The control is taken from the common man and put in to the hands of the few. Isn't that what the DMZ is? Shouldn't it belong to all of Malton?
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Post by Surfcop on Sept 2, 2010 1:56:29 GMT
I look forward to it mine is warn and dog eard so a new one would be appreciated. worn.
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Post by sanpedro on Sept 2, 2010 2:24:45 GMT
Haha Gabby you hard line leftists always have such a fire in your belly to bad it is wasted here. You know Anarchy and Communism go hand in hand. Why not help bring down the machine that is the DHPD. As the board's resident anarchist, I'm going to have to point out that you're going to have a very hard time convincing me to hold Gabe's hand. Strengthening the state is not a good way to destroy it.
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Post by Gabby on Sept 2, 2010 10:06:46 GMT
Haha Gabby you hard line leftists always have such a fire in your belly to bad it is wasted here. You know Anarchy and Communism go hand in hand. Why not help bring down the machine that is the DHPD. As the board's resident anarchist, I'm going to have to point out that you're going to have a very hard time convincing me to hold Gabe's hand. Strengthening the state is not a good way to destroy it. *scowls at the Leninist hat Pedro has put on his head and spits on it* We don't control real-estate. We protect and maintain it, free of charge. Hell, you're sleeping on our sofa, aren't you? In the absence of any means of production expropriate... may as well just stick with the guys with cool hats.
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Post by Revenant on Sept 2, 2010 10:20:41 GMT
Enjoy your libraries. No-one ever changed the world by reading. A man called Karl Marx once wrote, "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." Of course, you wouldn't know that, because you have never read any of his writings, have you?
In your post, you grossly mischaracterise our policies and actions. Of course, that is to be expected – if not the first rule, then one of the cardinal rules of politics is to degrade one's enemies while exalting oneself and one's allies.
Admin Decision: Since there is a desire amongst the Officers not to allow greater access to those who are perceived 'enemies' of the DHPD and creating a special mask for the handful of people who don't like being referred to as trainee would be an administrative hassle, your request for a 'Diplomat' mask has been denied. I've put your group affiliation under your name, if that makes you feel any better. It is a shame that you cannot return the courtesy we have shown to one of your members in our home. (Yet more evidence as to who is the more cultured, I suppose. ) I thank you for the affiliation tag, at the least.
He's told you once; no need to be impolite. None of us can help the way we are made.
As the board's resident anarchist, I'm going to have to point out that you're going to have a very hard time convincing me to hold Gabe's hand. Strengthening the state is not a good way to destroy it. Can the two of you compromise on anarchist communism, perhaps?
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