Post by DT on Jan 28, 2011 15:29:15 GMT

2. Maslowy's hierarchy So the Knights seek to present the various human needs as a web with self-actualisation/learning/rationality the keypoint in the centre. That's an interesting perspective. However it seems to me that you acknowledge the need for humans to also experience at least some degree of physical comfort and security if they are also to experience knowledge. In that case the PKs modus operandi still seems to threaten some parts of the web in order to throw attention on the centre point and I remain dubious about the efficacy of that strategy. Surely it would be better to seek to reinforce all parts of the web simultaneously?
Does it threaten those points? Of course. That's the point - we briefly remove the physical comforts of life and health, and of psychological security, in order to give the Ignorant little reason to avoid a Rational, Self-Actualizing existence.
This is also the reason we do not kill anyone save our specific enemies (and zergs) in Centers of Learning. In these places, the Ignorant can safely seek to further their minds.

Heh.
Shows how much use you've been getting out of that account you have on our forums.
In the first days of December, 2010, the Philosophe Knights performed a short, comedic skit which parodied certain Malton personalities to the plot of a (still unfinished) noir-light story. It was performed inside the Fort Creedy Gatehouse, which was filled with around 80-90 defenders.
The only reference to our agenda, during the show, was the announcement that the play was performed by The Philosophe Knights Theater. We executed 15 people immediately after the scene ended, and exited the stage.
Not but 3 minutes after we had left, a Visitor appeared on our forums, asking why we'd killed those people.
Not long after I'd completed my response, I tabbed over to the Red Rum IRC channel. In that channel was a person talking about the Play we'd just performed. They said that they were not the same person as 'k', our visitor, but that they had also read my response, and was planning on leaving the fort because of it. Our forums received a surge in guest activity as well.
By the end of that week, the Fort had fallen to the Undeadites, who'd only arrived a day or two after we had performed.
That's just one example - chosen because the posts are all still public, rather than in our archives - of our publicity stunts producing results with minimal advertising, and the sorts of lessons we give. Many others have occured on our wiki talk page, in-game, or...well, here and on other group forums.

Let me have men about me that are fat;
Sleek-headed men and such as sleep o' nights:
Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look;
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Trips off the tongue in a pleasing fashion, but that doesn't mean I believe it to be a conclusive debating point.
Parrots repeat words and phrases that have resonance to them. That does not make parrots philosophers.
I'm saying that trying to apply the scientific method to concepts like the greater human good and true happiness through rationality, balance, and self-improvement is probably a waste of time. How would one maintain a Control, and how would one know if their test was faithfully applying reason and balance throughout their lives, rather than slipping into vice? Certainly, I've never heard of anyone attempting to prove a philosopher right through lengthy experimentation.


Without either survivors exist in a reactionary knee-jerk state of fear, flailing around aimlessly to avert the current crisis and would be better off as zombies.
In which case, we're taking philosophy to mean a lot more than it's usually taken to mean, as it now appears to be zombie apocalypse self-help. If anything, I'd argue that philosophy is doing nothing to optimise your comfort. You're other creating new problems to worry about, or discovering truth, which is never very happy-inducing.
And this then returns to your point about the education side of things being rather overshadowed by the "shooting in the face" side.
What.
Revenent said:
Such staggering Ignorance is rarely displayed in my sight^^^
The Duke's unrelated comment, at the top of this page, represents my reaction to your post quite well.
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